On Saturday we decided to activate our rail pass which we
had bought before leaving the US. We
wanted to travel to just outside of the Nagano area to see the Japanese snow
monkeys. These are monkeys that are
native to northern Japan and besides humans are the farthest north living
primates in the world. These particular
monkeys are especially famous because they live near an onsen (a Japanese word
for hot springs) where they bathe and play in the warm water throughout the
winter. The location where they live has
snow for at least a third of the year making the monkeys playing in the warm
water against an often snowy backdrop especially photogenic.
The trip would require two train rides, a bus ride, and a
pretty good walk. The first train, from
Nagoya to Nagano, left hourly and was about a 3 hour trip. We would then get on a local train for a 45
minute train ride to the end of the line where we would board a bus for a 15
minute ride to the park entrance, then a roughly 2 KM walk up the hill to the
monkeys. We left our room at 7:30 AM to
catch the 8 AM train. The train station
was unusually empty at this time of day. Normally it is filled with thousands
of people walking in every possible direction.
We are pretty certain that the Nagoya train station is much busier than
the busiest we have ever seen Grand Central Station in New York City. At 7:30
AM however it was nice.
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Eight banks of elevators but no people, very unusual |
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Only a couple of dozen people, far less than the couple of hundred that usually are here |
The problem with the rail pass is that you need to purchase
your ticket from an actual person rather than from a ticket machine. The ticket machines are far more convenient
because there are dozens of them, they have an English button, and there is
never a line more than 1 or 2 people deep.
Buying a ticket from a person requires you to go to the ticket office,
which in Nagoya is busy, and speaking to a person who often speaks little
English. The ticket office despite being
in the same building as the hotel is a 5-8 minute walk from our room. The ticket office had a line of people but
they also had about 12 windows open so we didn’t wait in line for more than
about 3 minutes. We know our numbers in
Japanese and we know how to say the destination of where we want to go so
getting a ticket from a person is never an issue. We told the guy 2 tickets to Nagano, green
car, and handed him our rail pass. There
are two options from getting to Nagoya to Nagano. The bullet train, which is
about 3 ½ hours and requires a change of train in Tokyo is about 600KM (360
miles) and costs 23,000 yen ($268) each way per person! The other option is a limited express train
which is shorter, 250 KM (150 miles) and costs about 11,000 yen ($170) each way
per person. This also gets you there a
little quicker, in just under 3 hours.
This is the train we took. The limited
express train traverses an especially scenic route. Because of this the train is called a “wide
view” train and it has extra big windows.
Also, the front car of the train, which happens to be the green car, has
a giant window so you can sit in your seat while looking out the front of the
train as it travels. We had ridden one
of these trains before in Japan so we knew the seat to get would be right in
the front of the car, or seats 1A-1B or 1C-1D.
We had no idea how to ask for this from a non-English speaking person so
we asked one of the administrators at Chris’s job to write that request for us
in Japanese, which she gladly did. We
handed our request to the ticket agent along with our rail passes. He gave us two choices for trains, the 8 AM
or the 9 AM. We told him we wanted to be
on the 8 AM train, which was now less than 15 minutes from leaving. He gave us our tickets without saying a word
about the note we handed him (he did read it) and we noticed that we had seats 7C-7D. You can request your tickets be printed in
English but we never asked because we have found that when we use an agent they
usually do this without us asking. This
guy did not but by now we have ridden enough trains to know how to read the
ticket. Since we hadn’t eaten yet we
headed for a pastry shop in the station before walking to our platform to board
the train. The train was already in the station because this was the train’s
initial departure point. We boarded our
train with plenty of time to spare (maybe 7 minutes) and Chris took a couple of
pictures of the train from the inside and out.
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Wide view Shinano train |
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Inside the "green car" |
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Our ticket for seat 7C in car #1 on the 8:00 AM train from Nagoya |
The train trip was about 3 hours, just as advertised. After only about a half hour out of Nagoya we
were already in the mountains and we stayed in the mountains for most of the
trip to Nagano. The trip was certainly
scenic but we were tired and we admittedly slept for part of the way.
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View of Nagano from the train a few miles outside of town |
Before leaving the hotel Chris had written
down the times of the connecting train in Nagano but for some reason he only
wrote down connection times had we taken the 7 or 9 AM train out of Nagoya. Since we did not know which train we needed
to be on with this particular connection we headed to the information center in
the station, where they have English speaking staff. We told them where we were going and they
told us the quicker option would be a bus directly from Nagano station to the
monkey park rather than another train, then a bus. The cost of the bus would be 1300 yen each
way per person but would get us there in 45 minutes total rather than 45 minutes
by train then 15 minutes by bus. The
cost of the train/bus combination would have been about the same so we chose
this option. The instructions they gave
us for boarding the bus were simple, they told us exactly which bus platform to
head to and how to pay. When we walked
downstairs to the bus platforms there was a long line of people waiting to
board the bus which also goes to several ski resorts. We did not think all of these people would
fit on the bus and we were right.
Luckily, as soon as the bus filled up, it departed and a second bus
pulled right in behind it for the remaining people. When they came around collecting money before
boarding the bus Chris opened his wallet and saw 6 bills and assumed one of
them was a 5000 yen note rather than the 6-1000 yen notes he really had. He took out 3 of the 1000 yen notes, paid for
the tickets and we took our seats on the bus.
The bus ride was uneventful. We
arrived at the bus stop nearest the monkey park and really had no idea where to
go. There was a small sign pointing up
the hill that said monkey park so we started walking up what seemed like
someone’s driveway. As it turns out, it
was someone’s driveway. We realized our
mistake before reaching the house and walked back down to the street. At the foot of the driveway an older British
man asked us if we were looking to go to the monkey park. We said yes and he pointed us in the right
direction. He told us that had he not
been there before he would have made the same mistake. We thanked him and started walking up the
hill.
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Our bus |
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View from the bus stop near the monkey park |
We were kind of hungry at this point as well. We only had about 15 minutes from the time we
got off the train until our bus left so we did not grab something to eat while
we were there. We figured that we would
grab something at a shop near the monkey park.
It turned out to be a good thing that we didn’t get something to eat
because that 5000 yen note that Chris thought he had was really a 1000 yen
note. We realized this when we saw a
sign indicating that it cost 500 yen to get into the monkey park. Chris reached into his wallet to get 1000 yen
ready and noticed that he only had 3 – 1000 yen notes in there, not a 5000 and
2 – 1000’s as we thought. Now we did not
lose 5000 yen someplace, we just incorrectly assumed we had more money than we
did. This was not good because we needed
1000 yen to get into the monkey park and another 2600 to get back to
Nagano. We had 3000 in bills, plus the
400 in change from the bus ride. We
counted the rest of our change. We had
another 442 yen in change for a total of 3842 yen. We needed 3600 for the monkeys and bus. While ATMs are plentiful in Japan just like
in any other place, our non-Japanese bank cards will only work in a select few. We have found that they only work in the post
office ATMs which in the city is not an issue.
In a rural area like this however there was not a post office to be
found. So we had 242 yen or about $3 to
hold us over until we got back to Nagano.
Not good because we were hungry.
There was not much we could do about this but set our bus money aside
and start walking towards the monkeys.
The first major sign we encountered told us we had a 1.8 KM walk. We started walking up a paved street past
houses towards the end of the road where we saw the path up the hill into the
woods with another sign saying 1.6 KM and 25 minutes to go. We started walking up the hill towards where
the monkeys live in an area called Jigokudani, which means Hell’s Valley. It is called this because it is a narrow
valley with steep walls on each side and down in the bottom are hot springs
which give off steam making it kind of look like Hell. The path up the valley was snow covered the
entire way but being that this is a popular place the snow was well packed but
very slippery in spots. We took our time
making the walk and we got to the point where you pay in about 40 minutes. We paid our 500 yen to enter and walked
another couple of hundred yards to where you could start seeing the
monkeys.
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Start of trail |
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Along the trail |
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Near the end of the trail...notice the steam coming from the ground |
Despite the fact that you have to pay to enter, this is not
a zoo or some kind of wildlife refuge.
Despite seeing lots of people, these monkeys are wild animals. They are not in any way enclosed, in fact
they are free to leave if they like.
They hang around the hot spring probably because of the warmth but they
are in no way limited to staying there.
While the monkeys’ main diet is plants, insects, fruits and nuts, we
also suspect that the monkeys are fed by people who work there which probably
gives them an incentive to stick around.
As we approached the area where the monkeys mostly hang out
there were numerous signs warning you to not eat in front of the monkeys
because they will steal your food, not to look them in the eye because they see
that as a form of aggression, not to touch the monkeys and not to bring pets near
the monkeys.


The first glimpse of monkeys we had was a bunch of them from
a distance, playing on the hill side across the valley. At first glance there did not seem like many
of them but as you looked closer you could see many of them running around and
playing. As we walked further up the
trail we got to the hot springs area where there was a hot springs pool that
several monkeys were bathing in. We
ended up spending a pretty long time here watching the monkeys play and
bathe. There was one family which
consisted of a mother and father and baby monkey which was especially fun to
watch. The monkeys are very much like
people. They pick at themselves, scratch
themselves, make facial expressions like people and act very much like we
do. They were really fun to watch and
they were everywhere! You could get
within inches of them and they mostly left you alone. We did see one woman who kind of was grabbed
by a monkey, kind of the way an adult would slap a child’s hand when they are
being bad but we suspect that it was because the woman and a man got on each
side of the monkey to take its picture.
Besides that there was no form of aggression between the monkeys and
humans whatsoever. There was some
aggression among the monkeys though. One
of the monkeys seemed to be a little bigger than the rest and seemed to be the
dominant monkey. When he walked the
others got out of his way, often in a hurry.
We ended up taking lots of pictures before heading inside a nearby
building to get some warmth for a little while.
It wasn’t until we got into the warm building that we noticed that our
hands were numb from the cold. We ended
up spending 200 of our 242 yen on hot chocolate, which really hit the spot. We had been so excited from seeing the
monkeys that we did not even feel hungry anymore. For anyone interested in seeing the monkeys
for yourselves there is a webcam there: http://jigokudani-yaenkoen.co.jp










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You can tell how small this guy is by the size of the shovel he is standing next to |
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The one on the right was the mean one |
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This is the one who swatted at the woman who got too close. |
After heading back into the cold for a few more minutes we
started walking back down the trail towards the bus stop. We left the monkeys around 2 PM for a bus
that left at 3. The busses ran every
hour to hour and a half so we wanted to be sure we made the 3 PM bus. When we
got back to the bus stop there were already about a half dozen people waiting
for the bus and before we knew it there were more than 20 people waiting. Luckily when the bus pulled up it was nearly
empty so everyone was able to be seated for the 45 minute trip back to Nagano.
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On the way out...we did not see any. |
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The road we walked up from the bus stop |
When we got back to Nagano we went back into the information
center and inquired about a post office/ATM.
They told us where to find one so we headed there to replenish. After getting more money we headed for a
place to eat. We found a place right
across the street from the train station which had an English menu with
pictures. At this point anything would
have been good but the English menu with pictures worked out well. We ordered a couple of salads, some soba
noodles, which is a regional specialty, and tempura, all of which really hit
the spot. We paid for our stuff and
walked around a couple of shops near the train station to browse before going
back to buy our tickets. We intentionally
did not buy our tickets first for fear that the train would be leaving in minutes. We figured if we didn’t know when the train
was leaving we would have time to explore.
If we knew the train was leaving at a certain time we would be rushed
and might miss something. After
exploring a little bit we headed inside and bought our tickets. As it turned out the next train was in about
55 minutes, which meant we missed a train by about 5 minutes. So we bought our tickets to Nagoya and then
walked back outside to explore a little more before leaving.
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We did not try the horse meat. |
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Radish salad and salad with a horseradish dressing |
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Tempura |
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Soba noodles |
We boarded our train about 15 minutes before the 6:11 PM
departure time; again the train was already in the station since this was where
the train began its journey. For about
10 minutes we thought we would have the green car to ourselves but about 5
minutes before departure another guy boarded and took his seat. The extra wide windows would do us no good on
this journey because it was dark out so we did not care where we sat. We got back to Nagoya right on time at 9:20
PM and by 9:30 we were back in our hotel room.
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The view out the back of the train from seat 1A/1B |
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Empty Green Car |
im surprised chris didnt try the raw horse dish. It looks good.
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